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« Reply #15 on: October 23, 2013, 08:01:06 PM »

I was kinda busy today so I didn't get the car moved and then ...   sunset ... so ...


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« Reply #16 on: October 24, 2013, 09:03:33 AM »

It was 32F when I woke up late this morning.  Although it was already 8am there was still a hint of color along the horizon from the sunrise.


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« Reply #17 on: October 24, 2013, 09:21:08 AM »

I had a really neat "accident" picture of mine two falls ago. It was a frosty night kind of like that, and the viper logo from the hood mat showed through to the paint in the frost.
Was a crappy cell phone pic, but I'll try to find it for you and email it.
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« Reply #18 on: October 25, 2013, 10:50:24 AM »

like this?  32F this morning.  Got up early and started the engine then waited for about 10 min as C-Note suggested.


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« Reply #19 on: October 25, 2013, 05:06:49 PM »

Cool, I can see the snake on the hood.
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« Reply #20 on: October 26, 2013, 06:17:36 AM »

like this?  32F this morning.  Got up early and started the engine then waited for about 10 min as C-Note suggested.

yes! Just like that, except red lol
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« Reply #21 on: April 13, 2014, 08:18:18 PM »

Post one Sheldon ... use the Black Gen 3?
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« Reply #22 on: April 27, 2014, 12:46:01 PM »

Here's the video shot of my 2nd place finish in the SSCC.us Mile Shootout last Fall.  Video taken by apprentice of Japanese Sportscar magazine Journalist at each fall event.  My Sapphire GTS has been in more than 3 Japanese sportscar magazines.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4qDLDjzPSjQ

Awesome audio of my Corsa exhaust and 6000rpm shifts
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« Reply #23 on: April 28, 2014, 10:37:03 PM »

I just love that sound a idle. 
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« Reply #24 on: April 30, 2014, 09:04:26 AM »

Here's the video shot of my 2nd place finish in the SSCC.us Mile Shootout last Fall.  Video taken by apprentice of Japanese Sportscar magazine Journalist at each fall event.  My Sapphire GTS has been in more than 3 Japanese sportscar magazines.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4qDLDjzPSjQ

Awesome audio of my Corsa exhaust and 6000rpm shifts


Ted, sounds great!

BTW, I left you a comment on your video!
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« Reply #25 on: April 30, 2014, 09:13:50 PM »

LOL Paolo, it's NOT the TT.  I did drive the TT GTS 3,000miles from Houston Texas to Vancouver ...   (17mpg)  ...  but I drove it really easy.  The big power has a tendency to smash even extreme strength parts so it's smarter to tow that fast car to events rather than Drive it thousands of miles and exect it to win the races and drive thousands of miles home.
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« Reply #26 on: April 30, 2014, 09:34:53 PM »

LOL Paolo, it's NOT the TT.  I did drive the TT GTS 3,000miles from Houston Texas to Vancouver ...   (17mpg)  ...  but I drove it really easy.  The big power has a tendency to smash even extreme strength parts so it's smarter to tow that fast car to events rather than Drive it thousands of miles and exect it to win the races and drive thousands of miles home.

Ted, is that 152 in the 1/2 mile or a full mile?
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« Reply #27 on: April 30, 2014, 11:26:09 PM »

At 6,500' my Roe GTS went 152mph in the standing Halfmile.  No tire warming, parked, drive 2 blocks slowly, idle to the start line and away you go!  176mph with shit street tires with the TT at 10psi (1100hp) - got traction in 4th I think.  176mph is in 6th. 

I did rings, bearings and replaced my bad valve seals.  I ported the heads and then ran 180mph in the Standing mile at 6,500'  After Chris Jensen tuned my ECU (without w/m inj.)

At RacetheBase.ca I received 2nd place (overall) and ran 175mph in the Standing mile (cement pad for launching).  That was at 2500' and just before the 2 mle mark I was at 195mph in the Roe Viper.  It turned out that I ran with a toasted U joint and the vibrations were bothering me so I lifted a little.  I was using w/m inj and the stock ECU and a Vec 2/3.

If you'd like references on the speeds of various cars to compare to other venues and events you can find results at                  http://www.sscc.us/event_results.aspx   

Stock 2001 ACR with Borla exh and PS2s was 136mph in the half mile where as a stocker '09 ACR went 136mph as well

A 2013 Mustang Shelby GT500 drove from New York and ran 136mph in the Standing Halfmile (Isn't that the 680bhp version?)

Mike Fine ran 146mph with a 650whp Z06 C6 vette.  Fresh engine, cage and E85 for the high compression.  He finished Fastest in the Halfmile 2013 SSCC.  This event he will be running the Mile. 

You are required to run 2 events (Halfmile for Touring and Grand Touring classes), then have racing suits, rollbar, shoes, Z tires etc to run the Sport classes (130mph to 150mph Rally classes) and that puts you into the Standing Mile competition.
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« Reply #28 on: May 01, 2014, 07:10:46 AM »

Ted, I can understand the speed attained with the blower @ higher altitude for sure because the blower is starting with less air molecules per unit volume and spinning the same speed. My blower car at the Nebraska mile ~2800ft(from memory) that was making 11PSI( In Chicago) made a bit less than 9 there. I bet your Roe was making less than 80% of the sea level boost when it goes to 6500'.

Your TT, however is NOT making anywhere remotely close to 1100 RWHP @ 10 PSI and only going 180 MPH in 1 mile. I am sure somebody dynoed the car and told you it made that, but you have to remember that dynos can be made to read whatever the operator wants. Dyno numbers help sell cars because people want high numbers for bragging rights...... 1/4 mile and 1 mile numbers show otherwise. Ripper's steel gray with burgundy stripes GTS made about 1100 RWHP when it trapped 163 MPH with Gary Javo driving the car at the drag strip. Another way to look at this is comparing to the 230 MPH Lambo: 180 MPH is 50 MPH slower than the Lambo went there. That Lambo is making maybe 1400-1500 on an optimistic UR Dyno. That car has liquid to air IC and a fairly low back pressure setup so it likely does not lose all that much at higher altitude.

A true 1100 RWHP on 10 PSI does not happen with the kind of setup and turbo sizing you have on your car. That is more like what Lee Saunders' car makes with the T-6 Pro Mod 90mm turbos. Heffner told me he made 1100 RWHP on 11 PSI. That setup makes about 100 RWHP/PSI because of the low back pressure and the 7500-8000 RPM. A T-4 footwell with restrictive compound bends air intake setup sucking hot air with all it's limitations will never have that kind of efficiency. Even look at Sagev Viper's dyno graph: He has 8000 RPM, dry sump, GT 45 sized turbos(larger hot sides) Billet 80 mm compressor wheels....... He made about 1350 RWHP at about 15 PSI and 1723@ about 23 PSI with MoTeC everything......

Now for a more mundane comparison, I had a bone stock 1997 GTS on 7 PSI (61mm compressor/.96 hot sides/p-trim exhaust wheel) with 10.0:1 AF go 0-197 MPH in 1 mile in Chicago. I believe that car with that tune made less than 650 RWHP because it made 675 RWHP on 5.75 PSI @ 11.9:1 on the dyno. Combine the richer AF and the heat soak associated with running under street load for a mile and I think that car was making 600-650 RWHP max.

The 180 MPH @ 10 PSI depending on the tune, altitude and fuel is about right. What a lot of people don't take into consideration for high altitude is the turbos must spin a certain amount faster to make the same boost they make closer to sea level because the air going in is less dense. This leads to more back pressure on the exhaust side that needs to be taken into consideration in the tune. I have seen some turbo cars that are still affected greatly by altitude and others that are affected by a marginal amount. If the compressor map and turbine mass flow(back pressure) at the power level run is closer to the maxed out side the car will suffer. In a nut shell, if the layout is not as efficient, the car suffers at altitude.

I remember UtahViper and Trent both telling me their cars felt much slower at the Nevada Mile Race. Utah had a Heffner footwell TT with small compressor covers and a similar air intake setup to what you have. Trent had a nice SVS mount front setup but had 76mm compressor wheels stuffed into an S-cover(about the size of the covers on Eugene's car). He had some goofy liquid to air IC cores. I think Trent's car suffered from super high AIT's from the turbos spinning so much faster at that altitude compressing all that air from the exducer of the compressor wheel across that tight diffuser area into the compressor cover. I think this could have been the limiting factor for this setup at high altitude.

When I took Dell's car to that race in 2006, according to my data logs, his car performed very similarly to how it did at sea level. On about 18 PSI, we logged an 80 to 215 MPH highway roll that took about 7 seconds from what I remember. Dell's car lost an oil pump at around the 1/4 mile mark so we never got to see what the car would have done in the mile race. I don't think anybody had surpassed 220 MPH by 2006!
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« Reply #29 on: May 07, 2014, 09:45:50 PM »

Finally!  After my CAR COMPUTER was stolen in Texas I managed to get my 5th computer to actually hook up to my Vec 2/3 in the Roe GTS!!!   Chris Jensen did it, Tim Anglin did it, but my Vista said "Locked" and my 1T acer with special visuals to be seen in daylight inside the car couldn't load/operate the program and since the lastest new laptop I bought for the car wouldn't operate with the AEM program (required for the TT GTS) I was frustrated and ready to give up.  Wanting to add the extra 60 whp available with the w/m inj already installed in my GTS I bought a Lenovo thinkpad that was rebuilt, upgraded and still running W7 Pro OS that should work with the car programs. 

The Vec program took a few tries to get it loaded and seeming to work.  The first USB adapter couldn't locate a driver so that may be the reason a few of my other computers wouldn't work?  I just plugged in another USB adapter and the computer found a driver on the internet.  after downloading that and finding the com port it looked like the Vec program acknowledged the USB cable so I crossed my fingers and went outside to my GTS and plugged it in.  After changing the com port I foud the vec, saved the Box program and made a short log!!!  Victory!  Now to find out how much timing is safe to add to my tune with the w/m turned on.  I love extra hp!



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