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« Reply #15 on: October 07, 2013, 09:52:17 PM »

Nascar didn't allow any unlimited "race cars" to compete in stock classes, only production cars.   

NHRA also required that at least 500 cars be built to be allowed to run in their production classes, such as the Hurst Hemi 'cudas and Hurt Hemi Darts.  They are the world's quickest production cars and hence they are the "A" class in stock classes. 

Don't think there are any requirements for Lemans since the GTSR isn't anything like a Viper and they only built 2 or 3?

Not sure any of this matters since the Nurbergring record is open to interpretation.  Here's the list of recorded street legal lapt times;


20,600 m (67,600 ft)
 
6:48
 
Radical SR8 LM
 
Michael Vergers
 
19 August 2009
 
Dunlop Direzza DZ03 tires. Radical Sportscars[5][6][7]
 


20,600 m (67,600 ft)
 
6:55
 
Radical SR8
 
Michael Vergers
 
28 September 2005
 
Dunlop Direzza DZ03 tires. Radical Sportscars[8] Timed by Sport Auto [9][10][11]
 


20,600 m (67,600 ft)
 
6:57
 
Porsche 918 Spyder
 
Marc Lieb
 
4 September 2013
 
'Weissach Package' with Michelin Pilot Sport Cup 2 tyres. Observed by Sport Auto.[12]
 


20,600 m (67,600 ft)
 
7:11.57
 
Gumpert Apollo Sport
 
Florian Gruber
 
13 August 2009
 
OEM Michelin Pilot Sport Cup tires. Sport auto (Germany) (Article)
 


20,600 m (67,600 ft)
 
7:12:13
 
Dodge Viper ACR (2010)
 
Dominik Farnbacher
 
14 September 2011
 
SRT conducted test. Video and manufacturer confirmed. OEM Michelin Pilot Sport Cup R compound track DOT competition tires. TTAC article.
 Chrysler press release [8] [9]
 


20,600 m (67,600 ft)
 
7:14.64
 
Lexus LFA Nürburgring Package
 
Akira Iida
 
31 August 2011
 
Lexus conducted test. Video confirmed. Stock LFA with "Nürburgring Package". OEM Bridgestone Potenza RE070 street tires. Additional Roll Cage was equipped. [10][11]
 


20,600 m (67,600 ft)
 
7:14.89
 
Donkervoort D8 RS
 
Michael Düchting
 
2006
 
Sport auto (Germany) (Article)
 


20,600 m (67,600 ft)
 
7:18.1
 
Donkervoort D8 RS
 
Michael Düchting
 
24 October 2004
 
Sport auto (Germany) (Article)
 


20,600 m (67,600 ft)
 
7:18.6
 
Nissan GT-R (2013, 2014)
 
Toshio Suzuki
 
October 2012
 
Nissan conducted test.[13][14]Video Confirmed.[15]
 


20,600 m (67,600 ft)
 
7:19.63
 
Chevrolet Corvette C6 ZR1 (2012)
 
Jim Mero
 
9 June 2011
 
General Motors conducted test,[16] base specification car with optional track DOT competition tires (Michelin Pilot Sport Cup Zero Pressure), video confirmed.[17]
 


20,600 m (67,600 ft)
 
7:22.1
 
Dodge Viper ACR (2009)
 
Tom Coronel
 
18 August 2008
 
Chrysler and Motor Trend conducted test.[18]
 


20,600 m (67,600 ft)
 
7:22.68
 
Chevrolet Corvette C6 Z06 (2012)
 
Jim Mero
 
23 June 2011
 
General Motors conducted test,[19] base specification car with optional track DOT competition tires (Michelin Pilot Sport Cup Zero Pressure) and Z07 package
 


20,600 m (67,600 ft)
 
7:24
 
Porsche 911 GT2 RS
 
Horst von Saurma
 

Sport Auto (11/2010)[20]
 


20,600 m (67,600 ft)
 
7:24.22
 
Nissan GT-R (2011)
 
Toshio Suzuki
 
1 October 2010
 
Nissan conducted test.[21] Semi-wet conditions. Video confirmed. Best Motoring (12/2010).[22]
 


20,600 m (67,600 ft)
 
7:24.3
 
Maserati MC12
 
Marc Basseng
 
August 2008
 
Evo Magazine conducted test
 


20,600 m (67,600 ft)
 
7:24.44
 
Pagani Zonda F Clubsport
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« Reply #16 on: October 07, 2013, 10:03:35 PM »

I suppose this is the Nurburgring's classes;

Production, street-legal vehicles
 
Both "production" and "street legal" vehicles are not easy to define. The Nürburgring is a public (toll-) road, and regulations of Germany and the EU apply. For the purpose of this list, a car is “street legal” if it comes with a manufacturer-provided certificate of conformity that allows the car to be registered in any country of the EU for road use. For the purpose of this list, existence of this certificate (either European Community Whole Vehicle Type Approval (ECWVTA) or European Community Small Series Type Approval (ECSSTA)) is understood as a demonstration of intent for some kind of mass production. A production vehicle is defined as "one that is put into mass production, as a model produced in large numbers and offered for sale to the public."
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« Reply #17 on: October 08, 2013, 07:24:50 AM »

I don't think Radicals are street legal anywhere...

http://www.radicalsportscars.com/uk/showroom/radical-sr8-rx.aspx
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« Reply #18 on: October 08, 2013, 11:14:09 AM »

"For the purpose of this list, existence of this certificate (either European Community Whole Vehicle Type Approval (ECWVTA) or European Community Small Series Type Approval (ECSSTA)) is understood as a demonstration of intent for some kind of mass production. A production vehicle is defined as "one that is put into mass production, as a model produced in large numbers and offered for sale to the public."

All they require for their definition of Production car is a certificate which they say "shows intent to build mass production"  The compoany doesn't actually have to build more than the car that they run? 

Perhaps they should have classes according to cost?  That would put vette, GTR and Viper in a class all by themselves I would guess. 
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