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« on: August 20, 2014, 11:00:40 AM »

Finally the Ultimate Viper.  Supercharged and about 800bhp.  The NEW clown Viper should be able to keep up or beat my Roe supercharger!  My 2001 Sapphire GTS has been supercharged and 750-800bhp since 2001.  Thanks to Roe Racing, many of us have been enjoying the Viper supremacy with our Twin Screwed blown Vipers.  Competing with a blown Viper means covering your walls with trophies.  Now you will be able to go to the dealership and buy one about as fast as mine.  The Ultimate supercar on the planet.  Hope the world is ready for it!

http://www.autoblog.com/2014/08/20/dodge-viper-out-hell-hellcat-supercharged-v10/

http://horsepowerkings.com/reports-are-coming-in-saying-supercharged-v10s-have-been-delivered-to-chrysler-viper-update-coming/
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« Reply #1 on: August 20, 2014, 11:04:35 AM »

Once I've had my satisfaction from my 1500+whp TT GTS, I will give serious thought to trading it in on a new blown Viper ... 

I also would like to see a polished/clearcoated blower housing when the hood is opened and not some extra POS plastic cover like the GM ZR1 and new Z06 come over their blower engines!

This looks so much better than plastic covers ... and weighs less!


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« Reply #2 on: August 20, 2014, 11:23:03 AM »

Steve Dingle thinks that Chrysler should Double Supercharge the engine as Dan Cragin did to his GTS ...


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« Reply #3 on: August 20, 2014, 12:08:30 PM »

Something to keep in mind; Stated is that Chrysler/Mopar? will be offering the blower package for older Vipers ... 

The intake would require Gen 4 heads so the torque and hp from a Twin or Quad rotor blower with Gen 4 heads and our Gen 2s using a non emissions camshaft would bring back the favored Roe Racing Blower style systems.  I would expect that Sean Roe would be offering help with these packages.

Doesn't matter, Viper will again reign supreme and the unwary will be in danger if inexperienced drivers try handling the beast without proper training. 

I can picture the NEW Viper equaling or beating my Roe GTS, but I think I'll be calling Sean Roe about writing me a tune for the Vec for when I add the Nitrous line to finish my Nitrous system. 
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« Reply #4 on: August 24, 2014, 06:16:01 PM »

Steve Dingle thinks that Chrysler should Double Supercharge the engine as Dan Cragin did to his GTS ...

Now that's.... a plan!!!
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« Reply #5 on: August 25, 2014, 05:00:29 AM »

So what is the best supercharger for a gen 2? Paxton or the Roe? Opinions vary on this.
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« Reply #6 on: August 25, 2014, 11:09:18 AM »

I don't know.... will a procharger fit?
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« Reply #7 on: August 25, 2014, 03:39:01 PM »

I've had both.  I found the Paxton boring, but Paxton people like it.  With both being 5-600whp base kit the Roe torque curve is flat and massive torque is at 2000rpm.  Paxton shows stock hp and torque until after 3500rpm where the power goes up until redline where the Paxton makes it's power.

Drive a Roe blower along hwy in 6th and lower the gear ratio for a Paxton then drive it in 5th.  Paxton can be drivin' like stock if you shift it early it won't make the big power.  The Roe requires skill too drive because the torque is so high so fast that it is easy to lose control at low rpm. 

The Roe can be boosted and a 2.8L blower is available.  The Paxton can be built to run 1000whp and the Roe works best under 750whp. 

Because of the immediate response of the Roe Twin Screw it is the Ultimate steet choice.  A stock Roe blower is like driving a 900 cubic inch engine.  Paxton is stock and after 3500 the Paxton will build power and peak at 6000.

The new Blown Viper will be like a Roe.  Apparently the torque will be about 800rwtq.  That will be amazing.  I think that will make 9 sec with a stock Viper at some race tracks. 
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« Reply #8 on: August 26, 2014, 06:47:45 PM »

I can honestly say... I've been a ROE fan since the first time I saw one install on a RAM SRT-10
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« Reply #9 on: August 26, 2014, 09:12:23 PM »

No Paxton Vipers around here to race and my competition seems always to be modified ZR1s and TT Vipers. 
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« Reply #10 on: August 30, 2014, 05:49:06 AM »

Good info. I usually see the smaller size Roe's for sale used.
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« Reply #11 on: August 30, 2014, 08:21:25 AM »

I sold my Paxton and kept my Roe GTS.  Paxton was an ACR with lower miles.  With a LOT more money a Paxton can make more horsepower than a Roe however.



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« Reply #12 on: August 30, 2014, 10:25:06 AM »

I sold my Paxton and kept my Roe GTS.  Paxton was an ACR with lower miles.  With a LOT more money a Paxton can make more horsepower than a Roe however.
How do you mean with a lot more money?
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« Reply #13 on: August 30, 2014, 02:30:59 PM »

A base Paxton is good for about 525 - 560whp.  It overheats if used very much and on a road course the engine losses most of it's power after about 15 - 20 min.  The air-water-air intercooler and radiator system is only meant for short throttle passes. 

A Roe is good for about 550whp @ 5psi with about 580rwtrq.  No intercooler required.  My stock 98 GTS had w/m injection added with 8psi.  The engine made 598whp/644rwtq ...   A Roe is good to 10psi if you have forged pistons and water/meth injection.  Cam and ported heads the 10# Roe can make as much as 750whp.  The 2.8L blower can be added to increase the hp another 50whp. 

The Paxton needs a better tensioner, higher volume water pump, larger intercooler and radiator as well as a holding tank for the water.  Engine parts are same as the Roe. 

800whp the engine needs forged steel mains and an alignbore.  Racing/blower pistons are required, Stronger connecting rods needed.  That means $20,000 for a basic engine capable of handling that hp after 800whp.
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