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« on: June 13, 2011, 10:52:28 AM »

***Since I know that I am scarce around the web and limited on time to post these days, this build thread is a running update on the status of one of our new packages being brought to market. While it may differ from the standard offering based on customer requests and/or customer supplied parts, these threads illustrate what we are all about***


VS-1500TT:

Full build including a VS-1500TT Engine Platform controlled by Pectel Control Systems SQ6 w/Digital Dash, McLeod Twin Disc Miba lined Clutch, Tremec TR6060 transmission, Quaife Differential, Mark Williams Size-21 CVs, Full Weldon based Fuel System, Lamborghini Arancio Atlas Orange paint, & iForged Imola wheels w/Carbon Fiber lips, and interior modifications







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« Reply #1 on: June 13, 2011, 08:59:13 PM »

what rwhp for normal gas?
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« Reply #2 on: June 14, 2011, 12:43:45 AM »

what rwhp for normal gas?

These cars are being tuned for max off-boost torque and driveability for each fuel type at a pre-set power level, not max peak power on Pump and then Race. Power levels will be set at switch-selectable levels on the dash. Simply fill with your fuel of choice, and flip the switch to any allowable level. ie; a calibration will be set for a certain power level and at a minimum octane rating, and detuned if needed- regardless of what it is actually capable of. While we don't yet know how this exact combination will respond as this is a brand new package, we are expecting:

Calibration 1, Minimum 91 Octane, 750 Horsepower
Calibration 2, Minimum 93 Octane, 1000 Horsepower
Calibration 3, Minimum 96 Octane, 1250 Horsepower
Calibration 4, Minimum 100 Octane, 1500 Horsepower

Basically, I want them set up to run on simple mixes of readily available fuels here. We have pump 91, 93, and 100 here- so it would be easy to mix any of the above.
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« Reply #3 on: July 11, 2011, 09:43:11 PM »

For got to post before; Pictures Updated
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« Reply #4 on: July 11, 2011, 11:26:15 PM »

I didn't realize there was that massive of a difference in hp for just a couple points of octane.

Ted
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« Reply #5 on: July 12, 2011, 04:03:37 PM »

Its exaggerated quite a bit. The lower power levels are "detuned" to make them extremely safe and fit within the decided power levels. The customers wanted the ability to turn the cars waaaaaay down so they they are not a handful 24/7, and can take a long trip without worries of fuel, breakage, etc.
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« Reply #6 on: July 12, 2011, 08:03:31 PM »

You hear a lot about a Valet tune.  (Car makes less than 300hp) 

I wonder if you have enough memory to add that?

Ted
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« Reply #7 on: July 13, 2011, 10:24:38 AM »

There are slots for (4) tunes, and they can be set up any way the customer wants. A valet tune would be quite easy to set up, just give it a 1500RPM rev limit or on a FBW car, a throttle response that only opens 10%.
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« Reply #8 on: July 13, 2011, 10:31:14 AM »

 :lol:  Imagine a Valet trying to drive a 1000hp car with a 1500rpm limit?  Too funny   :lol:
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« Reply #9 on: October 18, 2011, 08:28:34 PM »

Updated:

Car completed & base tuned, in storage until ownership is transferred and it goes back to owner for Break-In & Shake Down, then back for final tuning when ready.
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« Reply #10 on: October 18, 2011, 09:53:08 PM »

You've been busy Dan.  Gotta love it.  What's cubic inches of this?

Were the crank/rod journals narrowed? 

what heads are on these builds? 

New TT projects lined up? :goodjob:
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« Reply #11 on: October 18, 2011, 10:17:18 PM »

You've been busy Dan.  Gotta love it.  What's cubic inches of this?

Were the crank/rod journals narrowed?  

what heads are on these builds?  

New TT projects lined up? :goodjob:


-Stock Cubes

-Stock Sized Journals

-Ported & Re-worked Gen-3 Heads in the 330cfm range for this car [Standard for VS-1500TT, optional is Gen-4 based uppers]. Deburred and mildly ported heads on the VS-1250TT cars. Headwork on TT Builds, while gaining efficiency from porting, is not detrimental overall unless you are going for HUGE numbers where you simply have reached the point of diminishing returns trying to cram a large volume through a small area. Hence why I don't spend a ton of time on headwork until the 1500 packages. The money is better spent on the 1250 packages in engine management and "details".  

-Yes, there is still one underway, as well as another one planned in the coming months that I am keeping my lips sealed about for now ;) Lets just say its a road-course car that will be built from the ground up to be exactly that, and will have more power than any track Viper I have ever seen or heard of. And the craziest thing is, the owner knows exactly what he is getting into, and is actually going to use it come hell or high water.
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« Reply #12 on: October 18, 2011, 10:32:41 PM »

I see your point. 

Interesting as I'd expected to see most of the big power TT builds with Stryker heads and so far, I've seen no Stryker heads on any TT builds so far.

Interesting.

Ted
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« Reply #13 on: October 18, 2011, 11:08:31 PM »

I see your point.  

Interesting as I'd expected to see most of the big power TT builds with Stryker heads and so far, I've seen no Stryker heads on any TT builds so far.

Interesting.

Ted


Some do, some don't. There are definitely some big power cars with them. They are great heads for sure, and have many benefits over Gen-1/2/3 castings. I wouldn't expect to see many new builds with them these days however- the Gen-4 heads are very similar and can be coupled to a better manifold than the Strikers, and are an attractive alternative if costs permit, and in most cases, an OE casting can get you what you want otherwise. Not to mention, strikers are currently out of production. If EE decides to bring them back, that's their decision of course. I am going the Gen-4 route on builds needing such as I like the availability, OE quality, and side benefits of the Ignition, Valve Cover and Manifold designs. Now that I am in bed with Pectel, I can realize the potential of any Gen-4 based setups whether in part or whole with control of the electronic throttles- even on cars that didn't originally come with them. Being able to control pedal gain rates and throttle reaction gives you a lot of flexibility on making the car behave a certain way. As funny as it sounds, you can easily make a dangerous car feel tame or a tame car feel like a basketcase depending on the drivers preferences.
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« Reply #14 on: October 18, 2011, 11:36:28 PM »

Ah, the Valet tune!  Interesting to think on...

Personally, I'm simple and prefer the cable.  Simple and I step on the pedal and nothing happens I know that the pedal or cable broke.  I could tie a string to the TB and move the car if I had to.

But, I am old fashioned too.  I like the idea of a Valet tune. 

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