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« Reply #15 on: June 21, 2011, 05:23:45 PM »

someone spill the beans, this is a safe site to talk freely
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« Reply #16 on: June 21, 2011, 05:52:35 PM »

someone spill the beans, this is a safe site to talk freely

No its not.
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« Reply #17 on: June 21, 2011, 05:52:54 PM »

Can someone fill me in on what this is all about?

tim = good guy, tim makes kool viper trinkets, tim doesnt sell these, some rat dropped a dime on him and called dodge and reported his using the trademarked logo's. someone is a rat. there can be no good reason to call dodge on him IMO.

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« Reply #18 on: June 21, 2011, 05:55:39 PM »

Tim is currently reading this thread.  Anyhow Tim I am sorry it happened, it is really shitty and very unsuspecting of that person.  Hopefully you can get past this.  There are plenty of decent Viper owners out there that are not shady characters. 
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« Reply #19 on: June 21, 2011, 06:04:36 PM »

with respect I do disagree, what about our wishes to know who we have to watch out for? you did open up this can of worms by posting the other thread, i dont think it will go away so easily. I am sorry for what happened to you and it is a lesson to all but you did make this public and inquiring minds will want to know.
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« Reply #20 on: June 21, 2011, 06:06:49 PM »

Tim thanks for posting.

Johnny, if he says he's not 100% sure then I agree that severe damage could be caused and it would suck if it was to the WRONG person.
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« Reply #21 on: June 21, 2011, 06:08:00 PM »

Tim, that post is a bit harsh and feel free to ignore it, i just needed to say my peace
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« Reply #22 on: June 21, 2011, 06:09:34 PM »

i missed that he was not 100% sure so yes I agree with the severe damage it could cause

Tim thanks for posting.

Johnny, if he says he's not 100% sure then I agree that severe damage could be caused and it would suck if it was to the WRONG person.

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« Reply #23 on: June 21, 2011, 06:11:21 PM »

locked so it will fade away as per tims wishes
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« Reply #24 on: June 21, 2011, 06:16:52 PM »

I have Viper friends all over the world.  I've known of Tim for years.  Mostly from threads of newbies that Tim had sent free Viper stuff to and some of them posted.  Several people were gifted or bought some of Tim's donated stuff from Club/charity auctions and posted pics.  I saw the quality of Tim's work on those forums.

After "my episode" I eventually did meet Timbo and become friends.  We get a long great and Tim sent me some trinkets (although I think event the small pieces should be called art) for me to donate because he's "taking the long way home".   :'(

Hopefully Tim will still be friends with us, even though we own Vipers (lol).  

When you change your mind Timbo ...  I have an extra Viper ACR.  For you I would be willing to return your generosity (that you're famous for) and remove a couple thousand from my lowest price.  :2thumbsup:

I have to admit that when I presented Black/silver Fangs to Fred (who doesn't read the forums) he was familiar with who you are.  We thank you.

Ted

 
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« Reply #25 on: June 24, 2011, 02:38:58 PM »

Doris Rose - re; Tattling on Tim

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Thank you friends who alerted us to this thread/issue.  Jon asked me to post this on his behalf.  


Rumor-Mongers and Haters SUCK!
From JonB at PartsRack TATTLING on TIM ?!?!?

It was brought to my attention just 36 hours ago, that certain "rat" rumors have been spread by a person or persons who are coincidently adversarial to me and PartsRack. I was totally oblivious to the thread until just before it was closed. My reply is simple: Anyone suggesting that JonB 'ratted' on Tim W for producing Viper artwork is total 1000% BS, baseless innuendo. Vendor bashing for entertainment of those who need a real job.

FACTS:

-Tim is from my family's tiny home town of Menominee Falls .....small world respect.
-Tim has made significant purchases here for years, a truly favored customer. Thanks Tim.
-Tim has NEVER been a threat to me, or PartsRack, in any way.
-I first sent TIM free doo-dads years ago... But he returned far more than I ever gave.
-Years ago Tim asked me about producing Viper items for hobby-enjoyment. I have even sold to Tim (at my cost) dozens of licensed components to HELP him make his crafts. So, I am 'complicit' in some of his items? (Ratting on myself here...) Years and Years ago I also helped MGW and ZAF with their licensing concerns.
- I wished I could sell his GREAT stuff! But I advised Tim to align himself under a VCA umbrella to AVOID licensing headaches. I advised Tim to move his art and craft solely thru the club and its regions. I believe he has been operating cleanly in that regard. Many here have benefitted, due to his art and generousity.
-Chad even gave away items as monthly web gifts when he managed that forum. Great Stuff!

More Facts:

CHRYSLER IS MORE PROTECTIVE OF the G-5 LOGO THAN ANY BEFORE. Fangs was embargoed a while, but G-5 is TIGHT! Perhaps Tim's overwhelming love and enthusiasm for the Viper exceeds their tolerance at this time.

Several DOZENS of Chrysler employees, including senior executive level, and 1 important contractor, read the club site almost every day. Tim's stuff is well-known here. That contractor owns a Viper, is a club member, and is in charge of Chrysler outside licensing. That same contractor ATTENDED VOI-11 where Tim and his work was somewhat conspicuous. Another MI licensee is also a member, and reads daily. Tim's stuff is WELL KNOWN in MI, and club-wide. Individuals who read here DO have Chrysler's best interest at heart.

All of the above FACTS have conspired to affect TIM.....but NOT necessarily directly from Chrysler, and certainly NOT from ME. {Haters: What would be my motive? We certainly don’t ‘compete.’ Why/How would I even have that clout ?!? } And I am also NOT saying that anyone of the above tattled on Tim. WHY?

I believe Tim DID NOT RECEIVE a letter, or call, or any contact directly from Chrysler or Dodge. I have NOT seen Tim say that. Neither have you. I believe he received suggestions, and emailed commands, but NOT DIRECTLY FROM CHRYSLER. And those were received several months ago, after the VOI-11 time-frame.

I know what it is like to get a call, letter, and business card from Chrysler. So do at least 2 other great vendors here. I dont belive Tim has experienced that rush.

The whispered innuendo that I would hurt Tim, or his business, is baseless and bogus. It is conducted by anonymous screen names for their personal enjoyment. And it seems to be entertainment for a few others as well.

Haters and Rumor Mongers Suck.....and shame on those who spread them. [And shame on those who blindly believe them.] THANKS to those fair souls who alerted me to the injustice of the whisper attack.

My conscience is clear, and my regard for Tim and his craft is strong. I would proudly sell his great artwork if I could.

Sincere thanks for your time, and BEST WISHES to Timbo.....

Jon Brobst
 
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« Reply #26 on: July 06, 2011, 02:56:28 PM »

I'm sorry.  I would just like to state that TIM DID NOT RECIEVE A LETTER FROM DODGE, as stated on the other site. 

Waiting for stuff to die out, but I am relating this from the source.

Kinda sucks Dodge getting blamed for stuff they didn't do ...

This thread is still locked.
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